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The Return of Jeremy Spencer
by Bill Wasserzieher

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These days, do you feel a deeper understanding of the music that so excited you in your youth?

Absolutely. Especially with the heart of sweet blues, not the screaming, down-and-dirty, grunge-and-sweat kind of modern blues that seems to be prevalent today. I still listen to Elmore's "Sky Is Crying," B.B.'s "It's My Own Fault," [or] Otis Rush's "I Can't Quit You Baby," for instance, and appreciate these classics more than ever.

I'll quote an interesting passage from a recent bio of Muddy Waters here. When he was asked why the white guys can't play the blues, he said, "There are some beautiful white bands. But they didn't go to the Baptist church like I [did]. They didn't get that soul down deep in the heart like I have. And they can't deliver the message."

I think he hit the core of it right there. Real feeling in blues - and I don't think it's just grumbling about your lot and complaining, but healing and empathetic emotion - has to come from God. It's not a matter of color, but I think most of those dear ol' black bluesers down in the Delta got the point lots quicker 'n us whitey folks.

What are your expectations for this album? The market for music isn't good these days, and, as always, the emphasis is on youth.

I don't have big expectations for the album. But on my travels in Europe, I have been pleasantly surprised at the reactions of some young people to it, especially, believe it or not, teen girls! I don't know what to attribute that to, as I'm no Robbie Williams or Eminem.

Is it enough to know that it will probably reach only a relatively small audience, but that they will be pleased?

Absolutely. Precious little, precious few. When I meet or hear from the people that have responded to it deeply and sincerely, I am somewhat glad if it stays small. I don't know if the record company will agree with me, of course! Even if I never record again, it's an album I can finally say I'd be happy to leave this world with.

When you were first starting out, what made you want to be a musician?

As a kid, plaintive ballads such as "Unchained Melody," "It's Only Make Believe," and "Young Love" got to me the most, especially when I would hear a solitary guitar in the distance echoing the emotion. That's what got me about Elmore James when I heard "The Sun Is Shining" - that extension of the voice through the guitar. It was just incredible to me. That's why, when it comes to blues, I like the singer and the guitarist to be the same person, even if the two elements are maybe not as technically proficient as a separate guitar player and singer in a supergroup-style lineup. Maybe there'll be some disagreement about this, but I like to hear the voice and the guitar "answers" breathing as one, if you know what I mean.

Was playing music an answer to something missing in your life, or just the natural thing for someone young at the time?

I played the piano and organ at the time, but when I began learning slide guitar, it was like I'd discovered a way to express emotion, and it was very fulfilling.

Beyond Elmore James, who excited you?

Homesick James [Elmore's cousin], Otis Rush, Albert King, and early Buddy Guy. I also liked Blind Willie McTell and Sleepy John Estes.

What was it like joining a professionally experienced band like Fleetwood Mac in 1967? Peter already had the beginning of his "Green God" reputation as a guitar player, and John McVie and Mick Fleetwood knew the ropes from their time with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers.

Strangely enough, I did not feel intimidated, as it all just fell into place musically. I did feel a lack of confidence, however, playing without a slide to do riffs to back Pete. That's why I didn't, and he ended up having to recruit Danny [Kirwan] to do that!

Tell us about the early Mac repertoire. Who decided what in terms of the setlist? You seem to have had plenty of "play" time onstage and in the studio.

In the beginning, with just the four of us, I chose the Elmore stuff and Pete chose his B.B. King-style material. For sure, I was given a lot of play time at the beginning. Too much, actually, and I wore out that Elmore riff.

Please tell us about the early shows in the U.K. Were the shows as wild as the legend has it?

They were as wild as legend had it, but legends have a way of developing over the years.

Did things change after Danny joined?

For Pete, John, Mick, and especially Danny, things changed for the better. Danny and Pete were able to develop together, explore new ideas, and the band took off successfully as a result. For me, it changed for the worse, as I just didn't find myself getting anything new. I tried, but you can't work that sort of thing up. As they say, [success] is 10 percent inspiration and 90 percent perspiration, but without that initial 10 percent, it's dry and futile.

How did your reputation for ribald stage humor come about?

I had - and still have to some extent - a silly streak and a penchant for liking to shock people, especially in those days with the staid British. It certainly wasn't all in good taste, and I'm not proud of a lot of those antics [Fleetwood Mac was banned from London's Marquee Club after Spencer appeared onstage wearing a giant phallus]. But we were a bunch of silly kids, really - boys in the band acting up. Nowadays that type of thing no longer shocks anyone; vulgarity is par for the course for supposedly controversial bands. You know, knighted punk stars cursing at a Royal Command performance.

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