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Interview with Alligator Records' Bruce Iglauer

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When you say you're "tough about the music," what do you mean?

I try to get artists to avoid clichés. Michael Burks, who is certainly under the spell of Albert King, and every minute in the studio I said to him, "Albert King made those Albert King records. I want to hear Michael Burks." Lil' Ed is rewriting songs for his new album because I said to him, "This writing isn't as good as your best. This line is a cliché. I've heard this line in a dozen songs." Sometimes it will piss an artist off, but I'm sorry - I don't want an artist to go into the studio unless they're going to make their best, most original statement.

When you were making records in the '50s, when the whole vocabulary of the blues was still unknown, you could go into the studio and record "Sweet Home Chicago." Now, when so many people know something about blues, you've got to work harder to be original.

Some people think I'm a little bit Napoleonic, but I stand behind my production. It doesn't mean I think everything I've produced is brilliant, but I do think the records I produce are better for the fact that I've challenged artists to do more than play their clichés.

Could an Alligator Records start up in today's perilous blues-biz climate?

I started Alligator at just the right time. There was a lull in blues recordings - Chess had been sold, and Vee-Jay was bankrupt, so there were a lot of great artists available. There were second-generation artists like Koko Taylor and Albert Collins who didn't have deals. There were also a lot more distributors to choose from. There were many more independent retailers. Now, we have to pay retail stores to take the records, and the coast of admission is much higher.

There were no American blues magazines in which I could advertise. Today, we buy full pages in all three American blues magazines, we buy quarter pages in every large blues-society newsletter, and we do a ton of advertising around our artists' live performances.

I made so many stupid mistakes when we first started, and if we made those same mistakes starting out today, we'd be bankrupt in our first year.

Does Alligator have a secure future, given all the changes in the business environment?

The record business is going through a terrible depression right now. Not a recession, a depression. And we're feeling it here at Alligator.

I think Alligator has the most secure future of any blues label. I won't lie; we've had the hardest year and a half in the past 20 years. And the reason is that retail record stores are running scared. Album sales are down 8 percent from a year ago, and they were down a year ago compared to the year before. Record stores are returning anything that is not considered an "essential" record. That goes for all types of music.

Alligator took a major loss last year. This year, we'll be lucky to break even. Luckily for us, we have a very large catalog of classic records that people will want to own forever. Records like Hound Dog Taylor's first record and Koko Taylor's Earthshaker and Force of Nature and the Showdown album and the Johnny Winter records. Those are going to sell forever, and they'll support the label through thick and thin. For labels with a smaller catalog and fewer classic albums, it's going to be very rough. Alligator will survive, but we're going to have to be lean and mean to do it.

What we need to happen right now is for a major crossover artist to emerge, either someone from the present group of artists or somebody new coming up.

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